Soldier On! w/Leroy Garrett — Occasional Essays |
Essay 119 (4-22-06) INTERVIEW QUESTIONS (1) (I was to do an interview at the ACU Lectures with James Cook, who is doing research on Stone-Campbell at Texas Tech. Since I could not be there due to illness it became a written interview. I thought his questions and my answers might interest you.)
Campbell was not present at the 1832 union meeting in Lexington, and he feared it might have been premature. But he eventually gave his blessings to it. If anyone felt compelled – by the mandate of the Lord’s prayer for unity in John 17 – it would have been Barton W. Stone, from the Stone churches and John T. Johnson, representing the Campbell churches. They, along with others such as Raccoon John Smith, met and prayed together on several occasions leading up to the 1832 meeting. Beside the biblical mandate, they would have been compelled by all that they had in common, especially a passion for the unity of all God’s people. It was a union of two unity movements, a significant event in the history of American Christianity. What was the main difference between Stone and Campbell? The main similarity? Perhaps the main difference was Campbell’s aggressiveness over against Stone’s milder nature. Even though he had precedence and was 15 years older, Stone readily yielded the leadership of the Movement to Campbell, recognizing that he had the leadership qualities needed at the time. Their main similarity was their commitment to the restoration of primitive Christianity, and through that the unity of Christians in all the sects. Do you think the Christian unity Stone and Campbell espoused, but was never realized, is possible? The unity for which Stone and Campbell
pled is the only unity possible, and yes, I believe it is possible to
realize for the same reason I believe the Lord’s prayer for the unity of
all believers will be answered. This is because it is the unity of the
Spirit, a gift to be received by the church. It is a unity centered in a
person rather than dogma. It is unity in diversity, not conformity. Its
genius was captured in a motto: "In essentials unity; in opinions liberty;
in all things love." It is at odds with Christian faith to hold that the
unity our Lord prayed for cannot be realized. It will come in God’s own
time and in his own way. We must be his instruments to that end. In your book The Stone-Campbell Movement
you state that Campbell did not believe in biblical inerrancy (p. 482).
What do you use to defend that position? I might have better said that Campbell was not a fundamentalist, though that term became current after his day. Since biblical inerrancy is the sine qua non of fundamentalism, we can say he did not believe in inerrancy – that is, he would concede, as honest scholarship demands, that biblical writers are sometimes in conflict. But he would hold, as I do, that there are no material errors in Scripture – none that affect or compromise the message intended. There are numerous references that
indicate that Campbell accepted modern biblical scholarship and was
suspicious of what we now call fundamentalism. Such as: "There is one
assertion from which we must dissent – ‘that the scriptures claim for
every jot and tittle of themselves the same plenary or verbal
inspiration.’ This we regard as ultraism. Any such claim would greatly
impair the reasonings of the most able defenders of the inspiration of the
Bible. It would be a great reproach upon the four Evangelists to represent
them as believing every jot and tittle of the words of the Messiah and of
themselves to have been inspired, when not any two of them narrate the
same parable, conversation, sermon, or aphorism in the same words. The
ideas and leading terms that represent them may be so regarded, but not
every jot and tittle" (Mill. Harb., 1837, p. 397). Your position is that "editor-bishops" in
the Stone-Campbell movement have had an influence comparable to that of
bishops in other traditions. Has this been good or bad for the movement as
a whole? It is like asking if a king is good or bad
for a nation. It depends on the character of the king! Bishops have
apparently played a positive, even necessary, role in other churches. We
have not had bishops, but we have had editors who more or less filled that
need. Campbell was even called "bishop" around Bethany, and the influence
he had as an "editor bishop" was for good. He had such influence as to
keep the Movement from dividing during his lifetime. Eventually editors
emerged with a different spirit, and they had sufficient influence to
divide us. You reject the "restorationist
mentality." Do you think Campbell would have agreed with you in regards to
restorationism? It depends on how one defines restoration.
If one takes the Mormon view, that the true church ceased to exist, and
that Joseph Smith (or in our case Alexander Campbell) restored it, then
Campbell would disagree, as I do. But if one uses restoration to mean
renewal and reformation of the church that has always existed since
Pentecost, then Campbell would agree, as I do. Campbell wrote about the
"restoration of the ancient order" to the existing church. He used
reformation and restoration as if they meant the same, and he believed the
ancient slogan, Ecclesia semper reformanda ,"the church always
reforming." Early on our people referred to the Movement as a reformation,
not restoration. Campbell himself referred to it as "the new reformation,"
believing he was taking up where Luther left off. Looking back over your experiences in the
Churches of Christ, what is your general opinion of this particular branch
of the Stone-Campbell tradition?
Regarding The Christian Church (Disciples
of Christ), do you think their embrace of denominationalism was the right
thing for them to do? Notes On May 7 I will address two a.m. assemblies at the Spring Woodlands Church of Christ, 1021 Sawdust Rd., The Woodlands, Tx. (281-387-2304) on "Our Heritage and Destiny As Churches of Christ." After luncheon together there will be an open discussion session. All these essays are available at www.leroygarrett.org [TOP]. |